Benjamin Higginbotham
posted this on December 13, 2009 05:01 pm
We have a lot of long form content, usually more than 45 minutes in 720p quality. I can upload to my YouTube Partner Channel just fine with a 3 or 4GB file to get a nice and clean re-encode from them. I can not upload that same file to Blip.tv to use as a master for distribution. This means I have to go to YouTube outside of Blip to get these files done (and at that point it is harder to justify re-encinding the file yet again so it will work on Blip). Would be awesome if that limit was raised to something like 5 or 10GB... Or whatever YouTube is doing.
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I'm having the same issue. My files are usually close to two gigs when I export to get the highest, cleanest resolution. The reason I signed on to this site was for the redistribution. Unfortunately, I'm having to upload to each site separately and having to compress my video to fit on here isn't very conducive. Is there any chance in the file upload size increasing?
January 22, 2010 11:07 am
John Federico
I'm having the same concerns. I'm producing a half-hour show with the resulting files at 720p and the file size can exceed 5 GB. I'm using the recommended blip.tv settings for the encoder but obviously those were created with shorter form content in mind.
1) Can the file limite be increased?
2) In the meantime, how should I encode (or at this point, transcode) my master file in order to get it uploaded at reasonable quality?
January 25, 2010 07:38 am
Eric Mortensen
blip.tv
These are all very strong points. We're going to need to address this going forward. For now, just export as close to 1GB as possible at 720p.
April 15, 2010 01:52 pm
Basti Homer
Hi Eric,
did something change in the past few weeks? I would appreciate a bigger upload limit as well :)
I have to re-encode about 200 Hours of 1080p material :[
June 22, 2010 04:30 am
Ned Barber
I have the same problem. I have a one-hour show which as far as I know I cannot put on YouTube. This is why I signed on with BlipTv and took a pro account. I've been trying to upload straight .mov files which obviously are way too big. I can't even find anything on the Blip site that gives the file upload parameters including encoding settings, file types, etc. Where is this info? I was able to upload a short test clip in mpeg4 that was only 275 meg but it keeps stopping when I try to play it. Somebody point me to the information please
June 25, 2010 10:21 am
Petster
I Never see the point in uploading massive uncompressed files as they take much longer to buffer, especially for people like myself who have ropey internet connections. I always convert any uncompressed video i make into Divx format as the quality is pretty darn close to the original file, while the size of the file shrinks dramatically making uploading/viewing videos a doddle, and as Youtube supports divx aswell all you have to do is upload the file again under the Youtube distributor.
June 26, 2010 05:34 pm
Benjamin Higginbotham
My files are by no means uncompressed. We simply have long-form content in high-definition. To keep near the same quality as the original a 5Mbps h.264 would be required (or more) and a 75 minute piece will blow past 1GB in size. Even in Divx. That same uncompressed show would be around 1.5 TB in size, so it is certainly being shrunk, but we just can't fit it on Blip. Since YouTube supports larger file sizes (as do many others) it seems silly to have our *master* distribution point forcing us to compress the video so much that the quality is sub-par even before it hits YouTube, Vimeo, etc.
June 26, 2010 08:04 pm
Petster
Ah fair enough for feature length video productions, what sort of videos do you make because i usually only make videos around the 20min mark meaning 1GB is plenty for me. I find Blip more generous with the size limit as Youtube only reserve the larger limit to Partner channels, i just wish Youtube would allow longer than 10mins because the 2GB file size isnt the issue, its the time limit.
June 26, 2010 08:17 pm
kate copsey
From what I understand with Youtube, the Partner thing is only available to people who have a track record of large followers. So it is not just a matter of paying for more GB or visiblility. I have only just heard of divx and hope to give that a try (helps to have kids sometimes!) because whichever way you look at it - large files are a pain to upload and a take longer to download,
July 14, 2010 07:15 pm
Eric Schultheiss
I've been trying to upload a video since Saturday, almost a week. It keeps stalling. It's 1.13GB in size, and that's the smallest I can compress it without losing quality. The video is 1920x1080. Why have a "High Definition" role, if blip.tv has issues with large files?
I suppose "just export as close to 1GB as possible at 720p" is good for some people, but what about those that want Full HD at 1080p? The only videos I was able to get under 1GB were those less than 10 minutes in length.
July 29, 2010 12:46 am
Kevin
Your video will lose quality when it is encoded anyway, so if you use an encoding tool like tmpenc xpress, you can play around with the setting until you get something under 1GB. A 1GB+ file will not stream for the majority of viewers, so you need to do a little bit of pre pre-processing before you upload (maybe export to MP4 before uploading)
August 11, 2010 06:29 pm
Eric Schultheiss
I'm not intending to have people stream it anyway. The HD versions are for when I'm finally approved for the TV distributions (boxee, tivo, etc.), however it seems to be taking an extremely long time for a decision on approval. All my videos are in H.264 and I use Compressor, which is part of Final Cut Studio. I have had to cut down the quality quite a bit to get them under 1GB for some of my videos, and it makes them look like crap. Luckily only one video really suffered a lot from the compression due to its overall length. Also, speaking of losing quality when encoding, your auto Flash conversion is horrible. I ended up having to make my own Flash versions just to keep the quality high. It may require more buffering for the end user, but at least they won't go blind looking at a pixelated video (especially when they go "full screen").
August 11, 2010 07:40 pm
Kevin
My profile name came out as office because it took it off the email. But I'm not the blip.tv office...
What you say makes sense. You can also gain some space by changing sound quality. Like if is mostly voice you can go to 16bit/22khz Good luck!
August 12, 2010 08:20 am
Ramirezg
Is it possible to upload let say three video each 1G and have blip.tv make them one episode.
November 08, 2010 07:19 pm
Frank
I would appreciate some support in this area as well.
November 14, 2010 07:20 pm
Eric Mortensen
blip.tv
We cannot assemble videos into a single episode, but you can build a custom player with a playlist that will play your videos in sequence.
November 15, 2010 04:41 pm
Theflagstands
maybe make it work for pro accounts? i mean im paying and it takes pennies so that would be cool charge me a couple penneis make it 10 a month i would pay
April 28, 2011 07:37 pm
Justin Meader
Is there any news on upping this size limit for pro accounts? It's really hindering some of the work we're trying to do! Thanks!
May 08, 2011 08:46 pm
David
They need to make it so you can upload larger file sizes with the Pro account.
September 30, 2011 01:37 pm
Glen Turnbull
i think some people cant read as every method of up loading states a 1gb limit
"This is your master file. Upload your highest quality file (under 1GB) here "
October 10, 2011 10:00 am
Ramirezg
we need to have more then 1g limit. i think Youtube is 20g. at least 5g would be nice i'll take 3g.
October 19, 2011 07:34 pm
Webranger1962
There are lots of things that can chop a file accurately without re-encoding it..... well... as long as it doesn't have B frames. Avidemux would be good. End on a keyframe, start on a keyframe. Set everything to copy.... select the wrapper your video is in. (avi, mp4 etc)... Save pieces out..
December 16, 2011 12:37 am
Neroangelo316
Hello, first off Merry Christmas. Now then I've been trying to post a video of mine for awhile now and am having problems. Your site says it can handle 1gb of video for basic users well I got a video. It's 434 MB, according to me research 1024 MB = 1 GB.
With that said I want to post my video but I keep getting response that reads "file too big" when clearly that's not true. I want this resolved before today is over, this is my Christmas special I made for my review show.
December 25, 2011 06:08 pm
Peterjupp
This a raelly low limit for a 20 min production that needs a minimum of 2gb for even1280x720. This length of film is the minimum realistic amount for a quality resolution in a decent length. Really 30 min is the aiming point.
January 11, 2012 06:00 am
Webranger1962
Scratching with my pencil here, it looks like you should be able to get 20 minutes @720p in a gigabyte @ 4 or 5 megabits. That ought to do. That's especially given that blip is gonna crush it smaller than that (by quite a bit).
January 11, 2012 08:58 am
Blip Support
blip.tv
Hi Peter- We have guidelines for how best to encode your videos here: Export Guidelines. You'll see that we recommend a bitrate of 3.5Mbps - 5.0Mbps for a good compromise between video quality and file size.
January 11, 2012 11:25 am
Tim Owens
I'm starting to think we're not going to be able to use Blip anymore. We've paid for a Pro account and still can't upload HD quality video because we're severely limited by the 1GB limit. At the very least you all could have doubled that to 2 for pro accounts. Absolutely none of the major video players, Vimeo, Youtube, etc have such a small limit. It's 2012 and you're still telling people to lower the quality and length of their videos, or worse cut them to pieces because you can't scale this for people who want to give you money.
January 25, 2012 07:38 am
Mark Johnson
We are also thinking of moving from Blip due to the 1GB limit. We are having to encode most of our shows at 2 - 2.5Mbps to fit in the 1GB limit and we have had to go below 2Mbps a couple of times. To not have this option is frustrating, even if we had to subscribe to a Pro+ account Blip need to be able to offer this.
January 25, 2012 12:10 pm
Ramirezg
yeah i'm really hoping this changes this year. If places like Vimeo are expanding behind the scenes, it's about time Blip does. i mean if they are spending money on new logos. and switching their blog site. Spend some on more drives.
January 25, 2012 06:21 pm
Neroangelo316
I think Mark Johson might be onto something.
But I got to ask what other sites are there that offer better services then blip?
I contacted youtube and they gave me this whol talk about no use of copyrighten material. While my review show is covered by the parody clause I am stil lexempt from a partnership offer with them.
January 25, 2012 07:39 pm
Ramirezg
just few places out neroangelo.
January 25, 2012 07:45 pm
Neroangelo316
@Ramirezg
First off cool sounding name.
What other places are there that you would suggest?
I mean I been pretty happy with BLIPTVs services untill I had to post my christmas special which fought me ever step of the way. I swear I tried uploading it like 6 times before it finally loaded. It game me the excuse that ti was too big, then after countless tries and shrinking it repeatedly in size it finally started to work. I don't want to have to change to another site but I will if I got to because I am trying to make this review show my livelyhood and I can't be getting screwed by a site that doesn't provide good service.
January 25, 2012 07:48 pm
Ramirezg
there's few places out there Neroangelo. I like blips' dashboard over the competitors. but what don;t like is how blip treats there producers differently then the ones with a name brand. Openfilm seems like a good start but again it's not 100% of what blip has but it's doing a great job of competing
January 25, 2012 07:49 pm
Neroangelo316
@Ramirezg
Is that a site you, yourself utilizes?
January 25, 2012 07:51 pm
Ramirezg
I've been trying to use it. Only been 2 months i think at openfilm. I'm not a big fan of the dashboard. They said they are working on improving it, but don't all company's say this
January 25, 2012 07:54 pm
Neroangelo316
@ Ramirezg
Yeah just to sort of shut people up. Which is a shame.
I mean how are we suppose produce a good product when are hands are getting tied?
It's not fair to us and how is it good for them. The only positive I see, not for us mind you but for blip, is that with foricng us to break videos into 2 or more parts means there site will forcibly get more hits as people will need to watch multiple videos instead of one.
January 25, 2012 07:57 pm
Ramirezg
well check them out see what you think. you can always keep both blip and openfilm.
January 25, 2012 08:06 pm
Neroangelo316
@ Ramirezg
That's not a bad option. And they are both profitable? I mean you get paid for both, correct?
January 25, 2012 08:10 pm
Ramirezg
yes
January 25, 2012 08:13 pm
Ramirezg
2g max with web up loader. 2-5 gb max with ftp uploading and i think unlimited if you send a DVD.
January 25, 2012 08:16 pm
Neroangelo316
@ Ramirezg
Thanks for the feed back, and please fee lfree to check out my show.
You can easily find me by googling neroangelo316 youtube.
January 25, 2012 08:16 pm
Neroangelo316
@ Ramirezg
Wel lthe one thing I didn't like was this....
Content Selection
The site currently offers thousands of original short films of all genres on channels created by independent filmmakers, production studios, film festivals and film schools. A content team reviews every film uploaded to the site to ensure it meets our quality and production standards. The website’s limited amount of approved content enables the best work to shine.
That to me translates as, film nazi.
The kind of person or people that may make it so that some of us can't make it on their site.
I'll admit I don't got the greatest production value I am still new and I am also incredible frugal. I don't like to spend money if I need to and the people on youtube have been nice but i got a camera that's not top of the line, good but not top of the line and I am concered that they will jsut be sort of that typical stick up the butt kind that sort of snuffs out anything that THEY don't like.
January 25, 2012 08:19 pm
Ramirezg
lol yeah @Neroangelo316 that's what i thought when i first came across them. The first thing i did was check the web series and looked for at the quality of them videos and noticed it wasn't true. So i uploaded a 4 min video and see if it would get accepted , and it did. It's a video explaining what's to come, intro nothing to fancy.
January 25, 2012 08:26 pm
Neroangelo316
@Ramirezg
Oh awesome, well hey if you got a youtube account please youtube me and drop me a line I would like to chat some more dude.
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I'm having the same issue. My files are usually close to two gigs when I export to get the highest, cleanest resolution. The reason I signed on to this site was for the redistribution. Unfortunately, I'm having to upload to each site separately and having to compress my video to fit on here isn't very conducive. Is there any chance in the file upload size increasing?
I'm having the same concerns. I'm producing a half-hour show with the resulting files at 720p and the file size can exceed 5 GB. I'm using the recommended blip.tv settings for the encoder but obviously those were created with shorter form content in mind.
1) Can the file limite be increased?
2) In the meantime, how should I encode (or at this point, transcode) my master file in order to get it uploaded at reasonable quality?
These are all very strong points. We're going to need to address this going forward. For now, just export as close to 1GB as possible at 720p.
Hi Eric,
did something change in the past few weeks? I would appreciate a bigger upload limit as well :)
I have to re-encode about 200 Hours of 1080p material :[
I have the same problem. I have a one-hour show which as far as I know I cannot put on YouTube. This is why I signed on with BlipTv and took a pro account. I've been trying to upload straight .mov files which obviously are way too big. I can't even find anything on the Blip site that gives the file upload parameters including encoding settings, file types, etc. Where is this info? I was able to upload a short test clip in mpeg4 that was only 275 meg but it keeps stopping when I try to play it. Somebody point me to the information please
I Never see the point in uploading massive uncompressed files as they take much longer to buffer, especially for people like myself who have ropey internet connections. I always convert any uncompressed video i make into Divx format as the quality is pretty darn close to the original file, while the size of the file shrinks dramatically making uploading/viewing videos a doddle, and as Youtube supports divx aswell all you have to do is upload the file again under the Youtube distributor.
My files are by no means uncompressed. We simply have long-form content in high-definition. To keep near the same quality as the original a 5Mbps h.264 would be required (or more) and a 75 minute piece will blow past 1GB in size. Even in Divx. That same uncompressed show would be around 1.5 TB in size, so it is certainly being shrunk, but we just can't fit it on Blip. Since YouTube supports larger file sizes (as do many others) it seems silly to have our *master* distribution point forcing us to compress the video so much that the quality is sub-par even before it hits YouTube, Vimeo, etc.
Ah fair enough for feature length video productions, what sort of videos do you make because i usually only make videos around the 20min mark meaning 1GB is plenty for me. I find Blip more generous with the size limit as Youtube only reserve the larger limit to Partner channels, i just wish Youtube would allow longer than 10mins because the 2GB file size isnt the issue, its the time limit.
From what I understand with Youtube, the Partner thing is only available to people who have a track record of large followers. So it is not just a matter of paying for more GB or visiblility. I have only just heard of divx and hope to give that a try (helps to have kids sometimes!) because whichever way you look at it - large files are a pain to upload and a take longer to download,
I've been trying to upload a video since Saturday, almost a week. It keeps stalling. It's 1.13GB in size, and that's the smallest I can compress it without losing quality. The video is 1920x1080. Why have a "High Definition" role, if blip.tv has issues with large files?
I suppose "just export as close to 1GB as possible at 720p" is good for some people, but what about those that want Full HD at 1080p? The only videos I was able to get under 1GB were those less than 10 minutes in length.
Your video will lose quality when it is encoded anyway, so if you use an encoding tool like tmpenc xpress, you can play around with the setting until you get something under 1GB. A 1GB+ file will not stream for the majority of viewers, so you need to do a little bit of pre pre-processing before you upload (maybe export to MP4 before uploading)
I'm not intending to have people stream it anyway. The HD versions are for when I'm finally approved for the TV distributions (boxee, tivo, etc.), however it seems to be taking an extremely long time for a decision on approval. All my videos are in H.264 and I use Compressor, which is part of Final Cut Studio. I have had to cut down the quality quite a bit to get them under 1GB for some of my videos, and it makes them look like crap. Luckily only one video really suffered a lot from the compression due to its overall length. Also, speaking of losing quality when encoding, your auto Flash conversion is horrible. I ended up having to make my own Flash versions just to keep the quality high. It may require more buffering for the end user, but at least they won't go blind looking at a pixelated video (especially when they go "full screen").
My profile name came out as office because it took it off the email. But I'm not the blip.tv office...
What you say makes sense. You can also gain some space by changing sound quality. Like if is mostly voice you can go to 16bit/22khz Good luck!
Is it possible to upload let say three video each 1G and have blip.tv make them one episode.
I would appreciate some support in this area as well.
We cannot assemble videos into a single episode, but you can build a custom player with a playlist that will play your videos in sequence.
maybe make it work for pro accounts? i mean im paying and it takes pennies so that would be cool charge me a couple penneis make it 10 a month i would pay
Is there any news on upping this size limit for pro accounts? It's really hindering some of the work we're trying to do! Thanks!
They need to make it so you can upload larger file sizes with the Pro account.
i think some people cant read as every method of up loading states a 1gb limit
the following was thaken from the http://blip.tv/dashboard/upload
"This is your master file. Upload your highest quality file (under 1GB) here "
we need to have more then 1g limit. i think Youtube is 20g. at least 5g would be nice i'll take 3g.
There are lots of things that can chop a file accurately without re-encoding it..... well... as long as it doesn't have B frames. Avidemux would be good. End on a keyframe, start on a keyframe. Set everything to copy.... select the wrapper your video is in. (avi, mp4 etc)... Save pieces out..
Hello, first off Merry Christmas. Now then I've been trying to post a video of mine for awhile now and am having problems. Your site says it can handle 1gb of video for basic users well I got a video. It's 434 MB, according to me research 1024 MB = 1 GB.
With that said I want to post my video but I keep getting response that reads "file too big" when clearly that's not true. I want this resolved before today is over, this is my Christmas special I made for my review show.
This a raelly low limit for a 20 min production that needs a minimum of 2gb for even1280x720. This length of film is the minimum realistic amount for a quality resolution in a decent length. Really 30 min is the aiming point.
Scratching with my pencil here, it looks like you should be able to get 20 minutes @720p in a gigabyte @ 4 or 5 megabits. That ought to do. That's especially given that blip is gonna crush it smaller than that (by quite a bit).
Hi Peter- We have guidelines for how best to encode your videos here: Export Guidelines. You'll see that we recommend a bitrate of 3.5Mbps - 5.0Mbps for a good compromise between video quality and file size.
I'm starting to think we're not going to be able to use Blip anymore. We've paid for a Pro account and still can't upload HD quality video because we're severely limited by the 1GB limit. At the very least you all could have doubled that to 2 for pro accounts. Absolutely none of the major video players, Vimeo, Youtube, etc have such a small limit. It's 2012 and you're still telling people to lower the quality and length of their videos, or worse cut them to pieces because you can't scale this for people who want to give you money.
We are also thinking of moving from Blip due to the 1GB limit. We are having to encode most of our shows at 2 - 2.5Mbps to fit in the 1GB limit and we have had to go below 2Mbps a couple of times. To not have this option is frustrating, even if we had to subscribe to a Pro+ account Blip need to be able to offer this.
yeah i'm really hoping this changes this year. If places like Vimeo are expanding behind the scenes, it's about time Blip does. i mean if they are spending money on new logos. and switching their blog site. Spend some on more drives.
I think Mark Johson might be onto something.
But I got to ask what other sites are there that offer better services then blip?
I contacted youtube and they gave me this whol talk about no use of copyrighten material. While my review show is covered by the parody clause I am stil lexempt from a partnership offer with them.
just few places out neroangelo.
@Ramirezg
First off cool sounding name.
What other places are there that you would suggest?
I mean I been pretty happy with BLIPTVs services untill I had to post my christmas special which fought me ever step of the way. I swear I tried uploading it like 6 times before it finally loaded. It game me the excuse that ti was too big, then after countless tries and shrinking it repeatedly in size it finally started to work. I don't want to have to change to another site but I will if I got to because I am trying to make this review show my livelyhood and I can't be getting screwed by a site that doesn't provide good service.
there's few places out there Neroangelo. I like blips' dashboard over the competitors. but what don;t like is how blip treats there producers differently then the ones with a name brand. Openfilm seems like a good start but again it's not 100% of what blip has but it's doing a great job of competing
@Ramirezg
Is that a site you, yourself utilizes?
I've been trying to use it. Only been 2 months i think at openfilm. I'm not a big fan of the dashboard. They said they are working on improving it, but don't all company's say this
@ Ramirezg
Yeah just to sort of shut people up. Which is a shame.
I mean how are we suppose produce a good product when are hands are getting tied?
It's not fair to us and how is it good for them. The only positive I see, not for us mind you but for blip, is that with foricng us to break videos into 2 or more parts means there site will forcibly get more hits as people will need to watch multiple videos instead of one.
well check them out see what you think. you can always keep both blip and openfilm.
@ Ramirezg
That's not a bad option. And they are both profitable? I mean you get paid for both, correct?
yes
2g max with web up loader. 2-5 gb max with ftp uploading and i think unlimited if you send a DVD.
@ Ramirezg
Thanks for the feed back, and please fee lfree to check out my show.
You can easily find me by googling neroangelo316 youtube.
@ Ramirezg
Wel lthe one thing I didn't like was this....
Content Selection
The site currently offers thousands of original short films of all genres on channels created by independent filmmakers, production studios, film festivals and film schools. A content team reviews every film uploaded to the site to ensure it meets our quality and production standards. The website’s limited amount of approved content enables the best work to shine.
That to me translates as, film nazi.
The kind of person or people that may make it so that some of us can't make it on their site.
I'll admit I don't got the greatest production value I am still new and I am also incredible frugal. I don't like to spend money if I need to and the people on youtube have been nice but i got a camera that's not top of the line, good but not top of the line and I am concered that they will jsut be sort of that typical stick up the butt kind that sort of snuffs out anything that THEY don't like.
lol yeah @Neroangelo316 that's what i thought when i first came across them. The first thing i did was check the web series and looked for at the quality of them videos and noticed it wasn't true. So i uploaded a 4 min video and see if it would get accepted , and it did. It's a video explaining what's to come, intro nothing to fancy.
@Ramirezg
Oh awesome, well hey if you got a youtube account please youtube me and drop me a line I would like to chat some more dude.