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It’s all h.264 now

Eric Mortensen
posted this on October 28, 2010 05:26 PM

Blip.tv has fully supported h.264 and HD since we launched in 2005. Over the years we’ve gradually seen the the world coalesce around these technologies to the point where they’ve become a de facto standard.  We’re very happy about this.

So we’re flipping the switch. As of today all new uploads to blip.tv will be presented to viewers in glorious h.264. This means that videos will be clearer, higher quality, and more compatible with a wider range of devices. h.264 plays perfectly in the Flash player, in HTML5, on Google TV, on iPhones, on iPads and almost everything else in the world.

Even better, all h.264 conversions will be in either full SD (480p) or HD (720p). Pro users who upload videos that are 720p or better will receive the HD conversions, while all producers will have access to 480p.

We’ve been making h.264 videos in a closed beta for quite some time now, so for many of you nothing will change. The rest of you — folks who have still been getting traditional Flash conversions — should notice a positive change in your video quality and performance moving forward… and also views from non-Web platforms like Google TV. And this is, of course, an important step in us moving towards being an all-HTML5 network.

Originally posted at http://theblog.blip.tv/post/1367676198/its-all-h-264-now

 

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Tj

Just a note.  Our pro account is not making an iPhone version that is functional on a 3gS on wifi or network.  When initiating play, the error "Cannot Play Movie" "Movie could not be played" 

I tried to recreate the M4V in the blip edit popup dialog but the redone video still does not play. 

For that matter, in the edit - files and roles tab, it displays two M4Vs.  One is Blip SD another is Blip 720 HD.  No iPhone version is listed and I don't know why. 

Is this an blip.yakimaherald problem?

October 29, 2010 11:18 AM
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Eric Mortensen
blip.tv

Tj - I'm not able to replicate this problem. We recently changed the way we convert files.  We're creating iPhone compatible videos by default.  I checked your yakimaherald.blip.tv page and was able to play multiple videos without trouble. Can you please provide a link to a specific example of your problem? 

October 29, 2010 01:59 PM
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Tj

OK, tried it again after restarting my iPhone 3GS and the problem continues.  The story I'm having problems with is. http://blip.tv/file/4310874 

I have included two screen grabs from my phone as to what I am experiencing. Thanks for checking into this, we have a pretty steady following for our prep sports coverage -- and tonight is prep football night.  Thanks!

-TJ

October 29, 2010 03:33 PM
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Eric Mortensen
blip.tv

@TJ - I am now able to reproduce the problem.  It works on iPhone 4, but not anything that came before .We'll have this fixed by Monday at the latest.  

October 29, 2010 03:35 PM
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Tj
Thanks so much. Just let me know if we will need to reprocess our videos since the switch to h264. -TJ
October 29, 2010 04:35 PM
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Eric Mortensen
blip.tv

@TJ - You won't need to change anything on your end.

October 31, 2010 01:13 PM
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Robert Kopacz

I had been encoding and uploading my videos in Flash. Does this now mean that I have to encode and upload in h.264? Or can I still upload in Flash? I just tried to upload a Flash video that was just under one Gb, that was 15 minutes ago and it is still not showing up in the dashboard, not even as a conversion.

Any tips you can point me to on the best preset in Premiere Elements 7? That's what I use to do my primary encoding. Can I use the Quicken *.MOV preset in Premiere? HELP!!

October 31, 2010 01:29 PM
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Robert Kopacz

PS to my last comment: The flash video was an FTP upload, and it showed up in filezilla as bieng 996 Mgb in size.

October 31, 2010 01:30 PM
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Tj

Eric, any luck with the 3GS fix?  Thanks!

-TJ

November 03, 2010 04:49 PM
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Blip Support
blip.tv

Tj - Take a look now. You should be all set.

November 04, 2010 02:51 PM
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Staff

Do we no longer need to upload an FLV version? Will you convert my 720P version to something smaller for slower connections?

November 04, 2010 04:18 PM
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Eric Schultheiss

Your stupid "Blip SD" video file cuts off the last 10-20 seconds of my video!  When I choose to watch the "Source" the video is fine, but YOUR conversion cut of short!  And I deleted and re-uploaded a couple of times, same result!

November 07, 2010 05:38 PM
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Eric Schultheiss

By the way, if you're using H.264 now, why do I even need your conversion?  How come "Source" doesn't play in the Flash player?  I've been uploading H.264 videos from the start, so why aren't those good enough to "just work"

November 07, 2010 05:40 PM
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Webranger1962

Yes indeed, could we just upload compatible M4V files and forget your conversion process.  This seems easier (and a lot less compute expensive for you).  I make files that play fine in a flash player. 

November 09, 2010 10:19 AM
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Ufmusicology

My converted SD videos are getting cut off at the very end. I've seen comments from around the web from others experiencing the same problem. Any ideas about this? Thanks.

November 21, 2010 08:14 PM
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Webranger1962

If the audio is out of sync too, it's probably because the source material has variable bit rate audio.  It can cause some weird behavior.

November 21, 2010 11:34 PM
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Robert Kopacz

For the record, I just uploaded a video using H.264 MP4 wrapper, and a target bit rate of 1500 kpbs. I can't say the quality is the grandest, and I also lost the last few seconds of my video when I replay it on the page.

I am still not clear on what format is the best for uploading.

December 03, 2010 02:11 AM
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Webranger1962

I am losing the last few seconds of stuff I upload too.  Please fix.  Please advise that you have fixed.

December 08, 2010 04:53 AM
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Harinadella

I am losing last few minutes of videos and i am not able to play videos on iphone/itouch. Please fix.

December 10, 2010 09:27 PM
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WealthTrack TV

It would be helpful to know what size clips work best for a specific device. This help document <http://support.blip.tv/entries/80435-how-to-create-an-iphone-compat...> is helpful, but does not detail which pixel size players work best on an iPhone, or an iPad, for example. A 320x180 may work on an iPhone, but too small for an iPad. I don't mind making a embed player for each.

So, please update with either iPlayer templates, or offer suggestions for pixel aspects that work best in mobile and tablet devices - both portrait and landscape content and portrait or landscape players.

Thanks.

December 14, 2010 04:58 PM
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Frank

Hey Blip, I've been using y'all for years and still find you to be the video service that best suits my needs.

But...

I've been streaming FLV's with Blip's playlist into the jeroenwijering player for years without problems. Since the switch to H264 the player will only show the still image and play the audio from the clip. I've been having to upload to youtube, download their FLV version and then upload it to blip so that it will play on my front page (http://submedia.tv) Can you at least make FLV conversion as an option on pro accounts?

Also, I've switched to Youtube for regular embeds on my blog. Since the switch i've gotten many complaints about the video taking too long to load and going into something called "Robust Mode"

Anywho, that's my feedback. I'm not dumping Blip, but the switch to H264 has added a few steps to my publishing workflow.

thanks

frank

December 15, 2010 07:34 PM
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Vincentbeers

"h.264 plays perfectly ... in HTML5..."

 

Just a little note there - it only works perfectly in the browsers that actually support. So that means no H.264 HTML5 video in Firefox (by default). Not that it matters much - at this point the HTML5 player hardly seems used by any Blip.tv-powered website I go to anyway.

December 30, 2010 08:03 PM
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Webranger1962

>Since the switch i've gotten many complaints about the video taking too long to load and going into something called "Robust Mode"

This would be the behavior of the "old player", which you'd find in your player setup menu.  I have been using the "new player" for what?  a year.  My encodes directly to flv no longer seek properly, so I have reverted to the "old player".

You say:  "It's all H264 now".  I say you broke the player.... again.  Could you look into this referring to support ticket #22961?

>So that means no H.264 HTML5 video in Firefox (by default). 

Chrome would work.  It also would not use html5, with the default embed code, if you are using a windows box or a macbook.  If you have set a player for "iphone compatible" in your publisher menu, then you will get a compatible response for the device you are using.  This is only important for devices like iphone and ipad.  They don't have a flash player.

If you have used blips conversion recently, it makes an m4v file.  If you have enabled the "iphone mode" in the publisher menu, it will fire up the video just fine on an iphone, android, or iphone.

Here's the rub.  If you made any recordings that weren't mp4's (m4v), blip converted them to flash flv files. These won't fly with an "i-device".  With the new encoding blip is doing, you'll get an i-compatible file.

In my blog experiments, if an iphone or ipad hits blips standard embed code, it will be smart enough to stream the mp4/m4v file to it.  If you were looking for ad money, no dice.  It is not the flash player.

 

 

January 01, 2011 08:06 AM
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Cemal Ekin

Is it at all possible to convert the old FLV files to m4v format without uploading the file again? I do not have a pro account, if that matters.

January 01, 2011 05:27 PM
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Webranger1962

>Is it at all possible to convert the old FLV files to m4v format without uploading the file again? I do not have a pro account, if that matters.

I *think* this is not possible.

January 01, 2011 09:15 PM
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Webranger1962

THE PLAYER IS BROKEN!  I hate to yell, but maybe somebody can help me out here :) .  I'm not getting anywhere with tech support.  The legacy flv files no longer seek properly.  That's both the ones I made and the ones that are derivatives made by blips automation.

This started a little after this grand announcement that h264 would be the new standard.  That's nice.  I approve.....  but not if you broke all the legacy files doing it.  We were making money.  Between the two of us, $10,000 a year.  Now we are not making money because using ads on a broken player is just beyond what viewers will tolerate.

I can redo all my efforts over the last couple years and re-up all these files for the last couple years, but hell, that could take a couple years.

It's all neat to have this cross platform support, but the way we both make money is to run these flash ads.  I don't see the impetus to support phones and ipads etc, when it's the flash player that is the bread and butter.

If you told me.....  We're supporting H264, but breaking the flash player for everything older than a month.....  I'd say "Are you nuts?".

Are you nuts?

January 10, 2011 05:35 PM
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Ken Pyle

My viewers and I have noticed that the service does not perform as well anymore.  I find better perfrmance straight off a web site with http download.   

Is there anything we should be doing in the backend?

February 08, 2011 05:01 PM
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Dan Kaufman

Not sure why you didn't just go with mp4 since it will play on Apple devices, android, net, whatever.  m4v seems more proprietary. 

February 10, 2011 07:03 PM
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Michelle Hedstrom

Hi, I noticed a few comments back in this thread, you said the problem with videos not playing correctly on iPhones before the 4 was fixed, but it doesn't appear to be.  We have several people trying to play stuff that we've uploaded to here on a 3G, and they get "could not play movie."

March 04, 2011 03:35 PM
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Michelle Hedstrom

I should add it's http://blip.tv/file/2833868 that's one of the files that won't play on a 3G.

March 04, 2011 03:36 PM
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CM

Playback is jerky for me.. the same files played on youtube and other sites work without problems...

March 12, 2011 01:34 PM
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Jc Leon

Hello.. I'm Not a Video-podcaster but an Audio podcaster, so the .mp3 files I upload aren't appear on my iTunes Feed because of a conversion fail (photo 1), How I can disable this option ? I don't want to convert y files to any format, can you help me please ?

May 31, 2011 01:10 PM
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Blip Support
blip.tv

Hi JC,

Blip.tv is a platform for original, episodic, web video series. We only support mp3s as a secondary format to video. Many features, such as the Show Page Player, embeddable players, playlists, etc. do not function for mp3-only episodes. 

We may not be the solution you're looking for. If you search the Internet, you'll find many audio podcast hosting solutions.

Yours,
blip.tv

May 31, 2011 02:53 PM
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Webranger1962

I have been having problems with the blip flash player crashing on Google TV.  It seems to happen a half hour or so into a broadcast.  JW media player works fine. The blip player almost always crashes on my web and a Logitech Revue.  You guys must have gotten your free logitech revue.  I did.

Soo.... can we tweak the player to dump an M4V stream when it detects the Google TV box....... like it does for an iphone/ipad etc?  Or better yet, make the flash player work.  I like the flash money.

I know Google may sort this out in a future revision of the firmware.

June 02, 2011 08:20 AM
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ted irving

since blip has gone to usin H.264 exclusively, why are there selection for uploading for media center, PSP, Mobile, Zune, etc.?

July 07, 2011 11:53 PM
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John F. Rhodes

DEAF DUMB and LAME

I have had horrible problems with Apple computers and H264. I record my audio in one or two channels, sometimes the sound only comes out of one speaker with the raw video, then I edit the video with either Pinnacle studio or Sony Vegas and make it so the sound is mono out of both speakers, sometimes I leave some conversations stereo, then, as I've been doing for awhile I have taken the edited MPEG 4:3 file at 6000kbp video and around 200kbps+- audio, and convert it to H264 4:3  with the video around 1500 kbps and around 200kbps +- audio. This works great on windows computers with quicktime but on an iPod touch it is still playing out of one speaker like the raw video did! Note: Don't tell me to use final cut pro. I don't want to be "Saved". I like my windows computer.

August 02, 2011 08:02 PM
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Fontaine Muzick

I have a total of 2,300 Views and its only like $7 in my payout. then when I go to the dash board it only shows $4 I notice where the vids get played its showing on average $5 or more on each vid paid to Blip but only gives the producer like pennies. IF THEY GIVE $10 - $15 per 1,000 views and I have over 2,300 why am i only seeing $7. My episodes are rated G and Episode based. On Youtube I get at least 6 ,000 - 10,000 views in under 4 months on Blip TV forget it the audience SUCKS !! they need to make a deal with youtube to just run our vids on there WHY cause youtube has a better audience no one knows about bliptv unless you tell them. go outside and ask somebody if they heard of bliptv.... :/ if only BlipTV would listen arghhhhh !!!!!!!!!!! THEN ITS THE DREADED TOPIC CLOSED MESSAGE ON MORE RECENT PROBLEMS WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ANSWER LOL WOW BLIPTV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE TAKE DOWN THERE VIDS TILL THEY GET IT TOGETHER WHEN THEY LOSE MONEY THEY WILL LEARN !!!!!!!

December 22, 2011 05:50 PM
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Webranger1962

>John F. Rhodes

Just shooting from the hip, but I think if you took the mono audio and made it binaural (two identical stereo channels) with perhaps Audacity (free) before you started your mixing, you might get some joy.  Try 640X480-1500kps + audio 48kbps stereo aac @128kbps.  (Works for me) Phones and stuff are picky.  It wouldn't surprise me if an i-pod might only play mono audio out of one speaker.  

December 22, 2011 06:44 PM
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James Hunter

Hi there, I have a question :

I love the new H.264 - my itunes feed files look much better than the previous format. I'm wondering though - can i delete my videos encoded before the switch and re-encode them in the new H264 quality? is that possible? I only have ~8 videos to convert but don't want to lose my views ?

thanks for reading,

J

December 28, 2011 11:16 PM
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Webranger1962

When I asked them in a support ticket, they did re-encode for me.  Your mileage may vary.

December 28, 2011 11:31 PM
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James Hunter

cheers mate, i'll try that

December 29, 2011 09:12 PM
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LazyWorkCreations .

I have a file that's just less than 700 mbs and it won't convert to SD or HD and I've been trying for the last 10 conversions.
It's a wmv file that's save in 720

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